Medical Education Committee Minutes

November 20, 2001

To:

Members of Medical Education Committee

From:

David W. Nierenberg

Subject:

Minutes - Meeting held Tues., Nov. 20, 2001 - 4:00 -5:30 pm Borwell 758W

Members Present:

Jim Bell, Todd Burdett, Patty Carney, Seth Crockett, Ethan Dmitrovsky, Leslie Fall, Petra Lewis, Martha McDaniel, Gene Nattie, Dave Nierenberg, Deb Peltier, Eric Shirley, Ryan Knapp = 13

Members Absent:

Katherine Bardzik, Duane Compton, Tim Killoran, Don Kollisch, Kristen Redborg, Ginny Reed, Alex Reyentovich, Marlene Sachs, Justin Wheeler = 9

Guests:

Steve McAllister, Anthony Perrone, Ella Webster= 3

I) Dave reported on his meetings with Clerkship Directors, CCDC, Students, Student Government, Clinical Chairs, since the last MEC meeting:

Using the attached charts (A and B), Dave discussed the different constituencies and how they would be affected by changes in the Year 3 schedule:

2) Dave outlined the latest iteration of the proposed new structure for Year 3:

Using the attached chart (C), Dave explained the block schedule of the new Year 3 schedule, as opposed to the current schedule, to wit:

A series of eight week clerkships would be created to include Medicine, Pediatrics, possibly Ob/Gyn, Family Medicine, Psychiatry, and Surgery, and an additional 8-week block that could contain 4 weeks of an elective, plus 4 weeks of either ambulatory medicine, women's health, and/or neurology.

The blocks would consist of 7 weeks of clerkships, followed by one week of a mixture of activities including finishing up the clerkship; OSCEs; special classwide lectures; and orientation for the next block.

The system would require no additional time spent by students. There would be an average of 12 students per block, with a lottery system in place to assign students to blocks.

3) Eric Shirley further defined the new schedule

Eric reported on the desire of the Ob/Gyn Clerkship Directors to combine the two clerkships into one if we approve the new Year 3 architecture.

Using the following chart, he explained how "Dartmouth Days" would incorporate new materials into the curriculum.

From Current Clerkships

HIV CD-ROM

Med-Pscyh

6

Substance Abuse

4

Chronic Pain

4

Office Management

IPCC

4

Quality Improvement

4

QI Presentations

4

EBM

4

EBM Presentations

2

Basic Science Presentations

Surg-OB-Peds

4

Radiology Survey

6

New Materials

Ophthalmology

3

ENT

2

Ortho

3

Urology

2

Geriatrics

4

Health Care Team

4

Sexual Health

2

Human Genetics CD-ROM

6

Residency counseling

3

Year 4 counseling

2

Total

72

4) Dave and Eric fielded questions about the new system of scheduling

(Dave Nierenberg and Eric Shirley left at 5:00. Patty Carney took over as chair.)

5) The remaining committee members discussed the schedule and voiced the following concerns and suggestions:

  • Would it be possible to make the Friday of the 8th week a vacation for all students? (This would reduce the time spent in the "Dartmouth Days" portion of the curriculum.)
  • How would the requirement of electives in Year 3 affect distribution of students? (Electives in Year 3 would not be required, but would be optional.)
  • Travel time for away sites is already inadequate - how will the changes affect that? (Changes should result in more time to travel to and back from distant sites, since there would always be a weekend to travel.)
  • How will the new schedule impact clerkship orientations for away sites? (Basic orientation would happen at DMS on Friday afternoons; any local orientations could happen on site on Monday mornings.)
  • Will students be able to adjust to the change from a 7 week clerkship structure to the fragmented topics of "Dartmouth Days?" Will the topics be relevant to what the students learn in the preceeding clerkships? (Probable list of topics presented.)
  • Is it possible to implement the new schedule within a six month time frame? Could the "Dartmouth Days" programs be completed on time? (Dr. Shirley believes that both could be done properly if given a lead time of 6 months, probably not if less.)
  • Would it be possible to integrate students from different clerkships to participate in small sub-group topic areas?
  • Would there be a problem with students cutting electives or Outpatient Medicine to attend "Dartmouth Days?" (Students would be expected to attend Dartmouth Days if they were on electives; they would be expected to complete all four weeks of any required 4-week clerkship, such as Ambulatory Medicine or Women's Health.)
  • What, specifically, would be the format of "Dartmouth Days?"(Still being worked on, probably a mixture of lectures, conferences, computer-assisted instruction.)
  • Can different "Dartmouth Days" topics be offered concurrently to provide choices for students? (Unclear.)
  • Could a "Manual of Electives" be provided to students half-way through Year 2? (Yes, this is already available.)

Agenda for next MEC meeting on December 18, 2001 in Auditorium A:

Further discussion and vote regarding Year III issues and restructuring

Pass rate: This year, 57 of 61 seniors passed, for a pass rate of 93.4%. The pass rate for the 16,515 seniors from all US schools who took the exam (the comparison group) was 95.0%. Over the last four years, our average pass rate at DMS has been about 97.2% (while the national average for the same period has been 95.0%). I believe that the reason that more than the expected number of our student failed on their first attempt this past spring may be due to several factors: NBME raised the passing score; lack of specific preparation for Step 2 by some of our students; the stress caused by students being pressured by various state medical boards to take the exam earlier in the year; and the difficulty for some students to master the MCQ format of exams during Year 2, Step I, and the shelf exams during the clerkships.

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